Therese Madden directed today's show. And I'm always interested in people who kind of fade into the background a little bit because I suspect they could be the most interesting people in the room. The rest of it is just an enhancement. This lady - her name was Claire. I've changed my life. Like, me personally, what I took away from a lot of things is that, yeah, I may have robbed a person for, let's say, $1. Here you guys are, poking and - poking and prodding. And y'all having these intimate conversations about, you know, why you went down this path or what it was like being a survivor, what it was like being this. Its out of body, he said of getting the call from Browns office. WOODS: That's something that a lot of us behind bars fantasize about - getting out and leading a normal life. He is 5 feet 7 inches tall ( Approx1.7 m). And they shot at Tyler, like, 40-something times. In 1997, Earlonne was sentenced to thirty-one years to life in prison. I don't know. It received 1,537 entries from 53 countries. [1][2] Since his release, Woods has continued to co-host the podcast with Poor from outside prison, with Poor recording some parts in San Quentin with new co-host Rahsaan "New York" Thomas. Before creating the podcast, Woods and Poor did interviews with inmates in San Quentin for public radio station KALW in San Francisco. Jerry Brown commuted his 31-years-to-life sentence for attempted armed robbery. The show was still challenging to create, in part because none of the three producers had a background in audio production, but also because of prison administration red tape. POOR: We can taste each other's food 'cause, you know, in prison you can't share food with people. Like, my mother used to bring him. POOR: Well, he wasn't necessarily a good talker because he was very quiet. Earlonne is a brother to Shala Woods. In 1997, he was sentenced to 31-years-to-life in prison. So I think I understand more the complexity and the pressures and inside I get to see men relating in very heartfelt ways. But the - the problem is is that a lot of the sentences are a hundred years, 200 years, 300 years. So I'm trying to like - I'm trying to partner with you here. POOR: Well, let me ask you this - do you feel like we're being unfair trying to make you do this? So how do you keep going? GROSS: So Tyler's father, your brother, is still in San Quentin during the final year that you were in San Quentin. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College and completed many vocational trade programs. Earlonne continues to co-host the show with Nigel. So for me internally, I started my change. GROSS: Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor are the co-creators, co-producers and co-hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin. E WOODS: Well, I think - so I'll say this. And I - I observed Earlonne a lot. You know what I'm saying? Woods was unaware his two convictions as a juvenile counted as two 'strikes', which made his conviction at 25 count as his third under California's three strikes law. [5] Woods role on the podcast was well-received, with Sarah Larson from The New Yorker describing him as an "immediately warm and likable presence",[10] while Eddie Harana from Rolling Stone praised the sense of humor he brought to the show. I have all the different people that I talk to as I work my way down to the media lab. And many people around me wasn't like that. And I'm not even talking about physically intimate, but just emotionally intimate is against regulations. He is 49 years old. Accuracy and availability may vary. It was so kick-back and cool, meaning I take advantage of all these moments now. It's something. Nigel first started going to San Quentin as a volunteer teaching photography. E WOODS: I think the mentality is more of crime to you is a job. Earlonne continues to co-host the show with Nigel. In November 2018, Woods' sentence was commuted by California governor Jerry Brown. You know that it could be a possibility, but it's a possibility that you've seen pretty much your whole life, you know? GROSS: Yeah. And I always wore black. So right now there would be a problem with me going back to see him because I'm currently on parole. Is he a good co-host? Their tenth season finished airing in December 2022. GROSS: So something I found really interesting is that the group that is multicultural and not segregated by race or ethnicity is the group that's into, like - the nerds, the group that are into, like, sci-fi fantasy and stuff like that. So this is JERRY BROWN: It all goes to this point that something very bad happens, and people will say, OK, now we're putting you in jail for a very long time. And my whole thinking, like, changed in that moment. TYRA WOODSON: And he began acting out. Woods was involved in an attempted robbery in 1997, when he was in his 20s. So what - one of the things that I've really taken away from being in prison is that I've gotten an incredible glimpse into what it means to be a man and what men deal with. She'll continue to do interviews inside San Quentin. They fell in love just like anyone else would. One is that you're going to get killed, and the other is that you'll eventually go to jail. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. Once the details concerning Earlonnes marital status are available we shall update. "[6], Multiple reviewers noted how funny the show can be, despite often dealing with serious topics, and how uncommon it is to find humor in media taking place in real life prison settings. Due to the complex and time-consuming bureaucratic challenges associated with unusual prison activities, she decided that audio would be easier to manage than video. Woods was raised in South Los Angeles with his parents and his older brother Trevor. I don't (laughter) take them for granted. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California . I'd rather deal with anyone, actually, as they are in front of me at that moment. What's it like to not care about the person who you're robbing or the person who might be killed by a stray bullet? GROSS: That was Governor Jerry Brown interviewed by my guests Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor. [4] Its first season began on June 14, 2017. E WOODS: So I think that goes into, like, what they call politics in prison and where, you know, you may have certain prisons that it matters what you're in prison for like - and it's a difference on a race level. And Jerry Brown was then the governor of California. How do you survive? Presently, Earlonne has not mentioned any details concerning his parents. He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. In an op-ed for the Los Angeles Times, Lexi Mainland wrote "The runaway hit Ear Hustle never takes a broad look at criminal justice policy or employs Voice of God narration. SHAPIRO: Earlonne Woods had to leave the media lab to take the call. Do you usually know what somebody is in for and do you ask, or is that considered wrong to ask? And it was one of the restore justice symposiums. But yeah, I can't. HuffPost visited Woods at San Quentin earlier this year to discuss why he created the podcast. I had to really work through it and think about it. SHAPIRO: Like in a restaurant, at your house, any POOR: Yes. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. Woods learned of his commutation the day before Thanksgiving. His first book, OG Told Me, is a memoir-style collection of essays about Harshaw's. Woods said he was only trying to be helpful, but was arrested by local sheriffs who did not question why he had lifted the gate; Woods subsequently had to appear in juvenile court. Earlonne Woods: Number one. Earlonne, until the end of November, was a prisoner. In 2020, alongside his Ear Hustle co-hosts, he was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for Audio Reporting. [6] While in San Quentin, Woods was unpaid for his work on Ear Hustle, though fans would often send him money. Jerry Brown. Earlonne is busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for originally incarcerated people, while also documenting his own experiences. GROSS: Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, my guest will be writer Sigrid Nunez. Copyright 2018 NPR. Earlonne was both co-host and inmate. His mother was a postal worker and his father was an unemployed alcoholic, who Woods described as violent and distant. I don't think I have the vision to see it. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California Three . We'll be right back. Earlonne Woods was born in the United States in 1972. What's it like to not think about that? In November 2018, California Governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne's sentence after 21 years of . So me, personally, I would eradicate the three strikes law in California. When Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods met, Nigel was a photography professor volunteering with the Prison University Project and Earlonne was serving thirty-one years to life at California's San Quentin State Prison. Earlonne stands at a height of 5 ft 7 in ( Approx1.7 m). How do we present this? Poor is a professor of photography at California State University in Sacramento. Woods has served 21 years of a 31 to life prison sentence. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). Your nephew, his son, Tyler, was born in 1994. I'm not doing that. In November 2018, Woods' sentence was commuted by California governor Jerry Brown. E WOODS: It's the bay. GROSS: Who - give us an example of somebody who you spoke to who had been a victim of a crime similar to the one that you committed that made you feel this, you know, sense of feeling bad for what you'd done. Along with Nigel Poor, he is a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX. He and Nigel also co-wrote This Is Ear Hustle: Unflinching Stories of Everyday Prison Life, a book inspired by the podcast and published by Crown/Random House. I'm doing that. And so (laughter) it was just incredible. Williams was serving a 15-year sentence for armed robbery with a gun enhancement. Im thinking about my mama, shes 70. They had left the auntie's house. In fact, when I walk through the yard, one of the things I really like is that people make eye contact. An intimate view into the life and challenges of an asperger's spouse.It seems some marriages are so wonderfully stellar you have to look away or be blinded. Nigel Poor is a professor of photography at California State University in Sacramento. And you have another 11 to go. But to hear the very next day that he was killed - and my mother is who told me. I took their security from them to even walk out the house and feel safe, you know? Earlonne Woods co-hosted the podcast Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. California Gov. Or is he a good talker? Don't be - whatever you do, don't play with no guns. [5], Prior to Ear Hustle, Poor ran a photography class at the prison during which one of her students proposed making a documentary. You're able to go POOR: We're able to go out. Earlonne was both host and inmate, but he was released in November after his sentence was commuted by California Governor Jerry Brown. I've never felt scared or disrespected. SHAPIRO: Earlonne Woods is 47. It's like - I think they're not under the constraints or the pressures to not accept people. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California . [9], In a Rolling Stone article about the show, Tana Ganeva called it "a fascinating, harrowing and also deeply entertaining look into life on the inside that runs the full gamut of emotions. , after serving 21 years of a 31-years-to-life sentence. And so I found out what you're in prison for. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. We will update you once we have more information about Earlonnes marital status. Vice President . Shes holding on. Earlonne Woods (@earlonnewoods) Instagram photos and videos earlonnewoods Follow 225 posts 24.1K followers 931 following Earlonne Woods Public figure Award winning Co-Creator + Co-Host, @earhustlesq . And I think that's a shared philosophy with everybody that's in prison - is that you have to just deal with what's going on today, you know, and just not let the pressures of prison just get to your core and crush you. So in that case, I didn't dig in. The sound was recorded because he's the co-host and co-producer of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with San Quentin inmates talking about daily life there, things like living with a cellmate in a tiny cell, what it's like to be in solitary confinement, the heartbreak of being a parent separated from your child, how everything inside is separated by race and so on. Poor, a professor of photography at CSU Sacramento, was volunteering with the Prison University Project at San Quentin State Prison when she met Woods, who was serving a 31-year-to-life sentence. We don't really do stories about people's crimes at all. And I mean, we just knew that was the call. In terms of his romantic life, Park is happily married to his wife in South Korea. SHAPIRO: Well, yesterday, California Governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne Woods' sentence. Brown cited Woods' leadership in . E WOODS: But I wouldn't have it no other way. "[12] Woods later traveled to thank Brown and interview him for the podcast. Part of HuffPost News. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California . [3][4] In 1997, at the age of 25, he was arrested for attempted second degree robbery. He is 5 feet 7 inches tall ( Approx1.7 m). Those are my partners. I'm not doing this. Woods' sentence was recently commuted, but the two continue to tell stories of life behind bars. His net worth is estimated to be $657,586. Also with us is Nigel Poor. Instead of me representing it, Earlonne and I can represent it together. I'm Terry Gross. I think my mother told me she loved Jesus more than she loved me. When Earlonne was incarcerated in San Quentin, he and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle. It mentally puts you in a whole different space. My first prison term, I went to jail when I was 17. What are some of the ways you think you've changed over the years? GROSS: Their brothers are the people who live in a similar world of fantasy as opposed to defining their brothers as being, you know, a skin color or ethnicity. For the first few months after Earlonne Woods was released from San Quentin in November, his "Ear Hustle" podcast co-host Nigel Poor kept receiving photos of ice cream on her phone. E WOODS: Right. You may be a changed individual, all the way changed, would never commit another crime. Therefore, Earlonne earns a decent salary as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. Earlonne is busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who were previously incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. I don't know if it's a lake. My guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-creators of Ear Hustle, a podcast featuring their interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin. But then someone will research you and be like, did they just feed me a bunch of bull [expletive]. "[9] She also praised its originality, "[using] prisoners' storytelling skills to show what it's like to spend decades behind bars. And it might help you. I realized that he had a really intense work ethic that matched my own and that we just really got along. And I'm playing this because it's about knowing where the line is when you're interviewing prisoners and sometimes to have to ask something that's going to make them uncomfortable. [5] He served his last seven years at San Quentin. In 1997, Earlonne was sentenced to thirty-one years to life in prison. And then I saw him in this awesome, orange T-shirt that had some brown in it. In 2018, California governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne Woods' sentence, citing Ear Hustle as a significant contributor to his reformation as an American citizen. And, you know, we was clowning on the phone. And, Earlonne, again, I want to thank - I want to congratulate you again for your new freedom. And that was one of the things that I appreciated about Jerry Brown - especially everything he said in that clip that you played is the way people inside think. I just stopped over there, went and sat on a rock and just watched the water for about an hour. Earlonne has not yet revealed any information about his parents. They dont stay the same people that they were when they committed their crime. So to hear Governor Brown say that, it was like this is how we actually think. Poor's teaching work led her to a vast archive filled with photographs taken from life inside the prison that she began using in . When I called my mother, she told me this, right? We can go to the gym and work out together. POOR: What are some of the things you think about when you fantasize about your life when you're out? I'm Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. 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