I dont see whats wrong with this type of text (or phone call) in general, though if a person has anxiety about getting texts / phone calls, I wouldnt do it so as to respect their feelings. It will be 6pm and we can have dinner. We talked about boys, sex, parents, money, school. It was obvious she was expecting an invite, but shes not a friend an acquaintance at best. Im in the area. Is asking. This may help put to rest frustrations I sometimes feel about issues where my preference runs counter to that of most people. I really, really need time to myself, and someone showing up to my house unexpectedly, no matter what, makes me feel uncomfortable and encroached upon. PLEASE CALL ME. Thank you! It can put the person organizing an event in an awkward position to be asked by someone if they can be invited. I have routinely over the last year asked if she were free for me to drop in for a hug when fetching mail (I receive mail in the same building as her office) and thats seemed fine.. Is something the matter? response from me, so. Mentioning that you are getting married in a month and are busy with wedding planning, in the course of some other conversation, is hardly a taunt. I used to do that because Ive had several friends (or friends) who had a tendency to cancel at the last minute. And then people wouldnt call, and theyd say things to me later like, Oh, I didnt hear from you so I thought you didnt want to get together. So frustrating, as is that other Northern California custom of texting someone on the day of an event to say, Are we still getting together at X time? Well, of course we are I agreed, right? Calling me from the car as you sit in my driveway, However, if I am waiting for you to pick me up, please do not text me to say you are waiting. Who DOES this? I guess you cant force it. I told another one of these people, its a small place, there isnt enough room for everyone to sleep, and they offered to rent an RV and park it in the yard! I love being around people and socializing, but only if Ive had time to gain some energy/prepare for these hangouts. In-laws decided to visit. This is not the first time Ive had it rough with best friends or high-intensity, close-knit groups. I definitely make sure my friends all know that I might have to cancel closer to an event if Im feeling terrible (depressive/anxiety). Re: can you actually trust people to say what they meanI wish you could, but sometimes, as we all know, you cant. the idea that not being invited in no way reflects your relationship with that person? Another general suggestion for times when you are trying to invite yourself over is _never_ assume youre dropping by their space, always ask. In another occasion, K told me we should hang out at my other friend, N's, house, without even asking N permission to be there. The reason is that I didnt invite you. Then if the friend wants to, she can suggest you come to her house but if shes not up for that, she can decline altogether or agree to meet up elsewhere without feeling like she was put on the spot. Apparently he was known for it, and it was about the only thing he was known for because hardly anyone actually knew him that well. We actually moved to a new unit in our complex to get away from her. My friend is also spacey as hell.). I asked her something along the lines of oh gods, what have you been thinking of me these last months, with all the details and no invite? The Captain mentioned the Ask vs. If you drop by unannounced you have deprived me of my sea shell soap and my famous bourbon blondies! I think that actually makes me LESS amenable to unexpected interruptions at home because Ive already used up all my people-dealing-with fuel fielding the expected-but-not-planned interactions at work. These may or may not apply to your situation, but maybe theyll give you an idea of why someone might be unhappy with a surprise visit, even if you were just excited about your new bike. We were all night owls, but at least twice visits in the neighborhood were after 11pm. Copyright 2011 thru 2023 Jennifer Peepas, all rights reserved. Here's when we do it. I live in a neighbourhood with a culture like thisit was built about a century ago and gets a lot of foot traffic, and many people stop and chat on their stoops or run in and out of each others yards. But why do you want them to walk from their car to your door and back again regardless of the weather? If someone is dropping by all the time I would get annoyed, and it makes me nervous about the friendship because of reasons I talk about below. Ha, I grew up in a similar neighborhood culture- but in kind of a hippie community where there were few fences and a lot of windows. Personally, Im of two minds on that. I had to talk to my best friend gently about that. NONE OF THE REST OF YOU ARE INVITED. Also, if you say youre coming around X time, come around X time. You are already doing the right thing by asking, and if people are saying yes, then I would say everything is fine! You cant be expected to magically divine that someone means no if you asked and they said yes. hut it's in the files, of course." They had got back to the door . I am not good at dealing with such people. Ive always been under the impression that you dont disturb someone at work. Okay, can I say, I find comments like this REALLY ableist. My neighbors friends all seem to find a perfect place to park while going in to get their friends: RIGHT THE HELL IN FRONT OF MY DRIVEWAY SO THAT I HAVE TO DO SOME WEIRD STEERING WHEEL MANEUVERING TO PARK MY DAMN CAR. I would chalk that one up to bad ex and forget about it. Yeah, thats what bugs me: I understand Things Happen, but to just turn up hours late without an explanation and then expect that the host will want to stick around and talk? That said, its definitely geographically specific as well as individually; I can imagine that in a suburban neighborhood like the one my parents live in, where street parking is free and widely available, parking and coming inside might be a nice thing to do (although its definitely not expected! Constantly. Indeed. As my original comment notes, I was confused that the term seemed to be being used to describe all sorts of in-advance-of-company cleaning. Doesn't matter what "vibe" you get off him, this is a man you barely know. understanding what the other person wants you to do or say about it Yeah, this! This is a source of endless guilt to me. Definitely not specifically British; my knowledge is patchy, but I know of no place in either Canada or the States where it is assumed to be broadly okay to interrupt people at work. Dont demand. I hope you get invited to the event! Looking back on it I can see my mother had some pretty serious anxiety issues that we kids had no clue about at the time, but the whole thing has had a lasting effect on me. They are not uncivilized roobs its just the norms of the very casual social culture in which they travel. From the angle Im looking, her best friend is trying to decrease the closeness or frequency of interactions in this relationship, and the LW hasnt quite gotten that message yet. I kind of describe myself as an introverted extrovert. I dont find that this crimps my social life at all, for what its worth. Sometimes people will ask me this less than two hours after the original making of the plan. A simple text letting him know you're looking forward to hanging out is sufficient. I never knew how long the visit would be. I cant say whats objectively right, but I can say thatI think this particularfriend of yours might be somewhat like me in these preferences relative to you and how they see your friendship. It's one thing to show up at a party, it's another to insert yourself into a four-day excursion. I have optimized getting MY needs met and didnt even consider whether or not it made you feel uncomfortable., Let me help you be more efficient by removing one social obligation from your list.. So yeah, no, I dont invite myself along to anything again ever. I wouldnt have shown up unannounced (or just email announced) if we hadnt already had plans. If no one answers, they will then go around back and pry open a window or patio door to gain entry. But if Im invited to Camilles for dinner, I wont assume that everyone we both know is also invited. But Im always thanked for double and triple checking with him because I understand that his particular brand of anxiety can say yes lets definitely plan to do this and then the day of be I really want to do this but I cant do it today. doing that, or reacting in other appropriate ways, without letting on that you noticed the feeling (VERY IMPORTANT). And my husband, who works from home and had not planned to eat lunch with us because he is working, has to let you in and entertain you. Going around the corner for drinks? Your script(s) are: That sounds nice/Are you looking forward to it/Where is it/I hope there are no diaper cakes., Person#2: Ive got to clean the house, were having people over on Sunday., Red light means stop. But I could be wrong! I am personally saving the galaxy from assimilation because I will never solve it. People might suffer my presence, but a lot of invites were basically to everyone in the group but me and maybe one or two other fringe members. Just follow these tips Alan Garner lays out in Conversationally Speaking: Keep a dual perspective. Yeah, there are lots of reasons somebody might feel like they need to clean for hours to have people over. But thats not whats happening here. *grrr* still stinging from getting stood up repeatedly by two separate people (for different events) last fall. Keep it short the first time, and keep everything as controlled? Only me. Be clear about when you plan on arriving and leaving. Midwesterners. however. The exception would be for a traditional date. If you just want to come in and chat and you have not ASKED beforehand or something, not going to happen. Tbh from what I see on YouTube, it's kind of normal to ask if you can come over to hang out. Anything less clear than that (ME: What are you doing after kickball? / THEM: Were going to the Pun-Off!), and I assume that I am not invited. (I wish it werent so, but in my limited and purely personal experience arranging any kind of social ANYTHING may range from difficult to impossible for an NNT young person), It gets even more clusterf*cky when you throw custody and visitation agreements into the mix. This is partly based on what I observed of other kids. and we will talk social situations to DEATH. There are people who use boundaries as a tool for good and people who use them as an excuse to be douche canoes. I know for me, its a bit of both. I am just a very messy person (which is sometimes exacerbated by depression). This happens here every. Intimacy and connection with other people means putting yourself out there, taking risks, and sometimes making mistakes. Yep. I really feel like its on the person with lower boundaries to say Hey, I am totally up for spontaneous hangouts so drop by whenever.. You: Teach me how to play basketball, please! It could also mean that he really enjoys your company and just wants to hang out. HOWEVER. Turns out those same people liked to gang up on me with emotional abuse and gaslighting. Like say some friends go mountain biking every weekend. I didnt know what to do and chased after her. So, if you like a guy and want to invite yourself over to his place, then there are many tips you can try. That wouldnt have occurred to me unless my friends were in the habit of trying to sell me things. Ill check in periodically through the week leading up to it checking on how his energy levels are looking so far and making sure his dad hasnt sprung something unexpectedly on him. Back in my pre-cell phone phone college days in liberal central Texas, folks who popped by because they passed near my house generally stayed on the porch, got a hug, and went on their merry way. Don't invite him to your house at all. Later you could even tell her that you assumed when you hadnt seen her that she wasnt coming by. Do they really need to get out of the car in these conditions because of your preferences? I think it comes from the assumption that people in certain cultures have that everyone keeps their houses a basic level of clean. With friends along! At the same time, I get really antsy about people coming over to drop by even when I do have a good couple of hours of notice. If you think you are you could try. My current circle has enough meetups coordinated through non-Facebook means that I dont mind missing the occasional Facebook-only one, but when I lived in a different city with a different social circle I actually picked one person I was closer to and asked her to be my Facebook mole If you see a whole-group invitation go out via Facebook, could you email me about it? If you're a fun, interesting person, who gets along well with everyone who's coming, then nobody's really going to protest if you appear. 3. YES SAME. But if the loading zone is filled, the driver ends up inconvenienced, so if the driver has no other passengers Ill do what my spouse prefers and wait outside for them. I suppose the modern equivalent is mostly not responding to a text for six hours and then going whoops, phone was off. If he accepts, but suggests hanging out at your place, have an excuse in mind for why you have to hang out at his place. ! like, uhh, at home because I thought the plans were canceled since you never got back to me.. You go on a date and really enjoy it, you guys hang out, drink and have a good time. Another time maybe and then talk about something else. Different strokes and all.). The house was never in fact very dirty and usually was fairly presentable even without the deep-clean, but my mom was ashamed and embarrassed by any perceived imperfection that she thought others would notice. A guy may not even realize you want to spend time with him at his place until you bring it up. If FriendSpouse is busy, Friend has been OK with me just coming by, but (because *I* dont like it) I tend not to want to do that, and the upshot is that a lot of FriendPlans turn into FriendMissedOpportunities because Im waiting for a text or call because wed already said we wanted to hang out, but Friend is assuming that Ill take the initiative because I know that Friend will forget. My mother always really, REALLY hated unexpected guests and visitors, and if someone showed up unexpectedly she would be icily polite until they left and then bitch about them for hours afterwards and for the following couple of days. Of course, some people are just bad at initiating, and can get into a lazy habit of letting the other person do all of it, but it could also be a sign that shes not as into this friendship as you are. He moved cities for me. Ill have discomfort discussing a plan with a person if its a plan that they could conceivably have been involved with. Even if I want to do that thing, I resent the implication that friend doesnt care to consider whether I want to or not. Oh, and I forgot to add: people who live in a way where they have to clean for hours just to have people over? When, or if, is it okay to try to invite yourself to something? Remember to be yourself and be cool and casual during the conversation. In the end though it would have been much better for us if Id set stronger boundaries at the outset. People who dont shouldnt be dropping by anyway. The usual time of arrival for Santa in your home is . Visit with the parent while the kids bash about. I explained that to my friends in advance before ever accepting an invitation and when I do get there early I offer my help in setting things up. Where I grew up there was an open door culture. Hope to catch up soon. And then let her be the next one to reach out. I agree I dont want someone showing up at my house unexpectedly without calling ahead. Even short and enjoyable visits can be ruined by not knowing when they will end. Excellent advice from the Captain. This house is my safe zone. (Also, whats with assuming that people will be at home? My friends are well aware that they can show up. "You know where he lives?'' "No. We were working adults with careers, although not particularly demanding ones. Ill also disagree that invitations arent a reflection of friendship. Shit like what you describe would scar anybody, and good for you for talking about it openly. OH GOD ME TOO. maybe they thought i wouldnt like it, maybe they knew i was busy, or maybe? This Is How To Invite Yourself Over To His House, English Conversation Practice - Inviting Someone to the Bar, This Is How To Initiate Physical Contact With A Shy Guy, This Is How Many Dates Before Inviting Him Over. I think that's often what's really at the heart of it when people ask if it's okay to invite themselves somewhere. A friend of mine once gave me the run down of her husbands birthday party, to which she had invited everyone in our friend group except me. [6] 3 Make a list of everything you want to pack. Cookie Notice You might continue by offering to make him one of your favorite meals for supper that you know he would enjoy or a dessert that will blow his mind. I consider my house a family and friends and me place, and that works just fine. If someone hosts a party, Im tired, is a pretty universal sign to wrap things up. not to say you should construct an elaborate web of lies, just dont go on and on about it. I asked N if that was ok, she said it was, and that K is always at her house anyways. What Im trying to get at is that it was fine because Third Person inserted themselves, rather than because big expensive things get a pass.. (I mean, my house is my Fortress of Solitude, and I can be super grumpy if Im interrupted in the middle of something by my phone, but unless underlying issues are at play, even I the Queen of the Solitary Grumpies here am never going to reply to a self-invite with Dude, totally inappropriate! rather than just, Nope, not gonna work right now.) Talk about it with her if youd like; let her slow-fade quietly on out if youd like; find a new awesome person to enjoy riding with. Seriously. Sometimes an hour early. Like, most of Mr Birds family lives in Nearish Smaller Town, and often have to come to Big Town where we live for shopping, doctors, etc. Much communication later, of course, things were happier. I literally hid from them a few times, even though my mom told me I was being rude. You ask him/her to see each other and . I like to be left blessedly alone without the shoulders-up-around-my-ears anticipation that I am about to get invaded or called ten times in a row about bullshit, which is a feeling I have pretty much all the time when not at work or when it is not between midnight and five AM, the time when my mother might be unconscious for a few blessed hours, because all other times of the day are possible nMom intrusion times, either in person or by phone (and, if I dont answer the phone, she will definitely show up in person). This is the craziest way I see guys blow their opportunities. So much this. The easiest way to get a guy to invite you over is to suggest the idea to him in a way that will make it nearly impossible for him to say no. Does she ever reciprocate, either by visiting you or by explicitly inviting you? Plus it can feel for me like, whoa, are you going to do this a lot? Not everyone is comfortable with being brutal to friends is not the same thing as nobody is comfortable with being brutally honest with friends and you cant ever ask your friends to BE honest because obviously theyd find that uncomfortable, and you should just LEARN. Not saying this is a sensible way to do things, but for anyone else readingyes, sometimes it does slip peoples minds!). If shes trying to get space, the first thing she might be cutting is spontaneous interaction with person X. They need to have a talk about the state of things, and the LW needs to prepare for the idea that this friend might want a more distant situation or even hand off an African Violet here. in Psychology. Some people love regularly showing up 30/45 minutes early every time to the point where weve started saying doors open at 6 because otherwise who even knows. If you try TWICE to schedule something with someone you dont know very well. (This, I think, arises in part from the opposite problemif someone were to suggest that they come along to something I had planned, I would have a VERY hard time refusing them even if I really didnt want them to be there. I'll check it and issue an invitation to you when it's convenient for me to host you. Not only do people knock on the door randomly to see how the house is coming along, but many of them just WALK RIGHT IN! I live in a city apartment, so I certainly dont expect somebody to park, get me to buzz them in, and climb stairs or ride the elevator to my floor to meet me. I mean if its my sister, then she can drop by anytime because if I was going to take a nap I will just say hey, I was about to take a nap, you know where the coffee, internet, tv remote is, see you in 45 minutes. I have a very polite no soliciting sign on the gate. Youre going to show our friend the bike and then ride away on your bike. And, in nMoms reality, faaaaaaaaaaaamily can walk into your bedroom and shout at you or shake your mattress until you wake up, because she is a total asshole with no consideration for other people. They will never ever have to believe that they are inherently bad at being people. Asking someone over to hang out at your house is much more personal if you ask him in person -- when that's possible and practical. Recently Ive taken to IMing my friends if Im in their area and have a little time. I am a messy person, who not only doesnt wear a bra in the house but who habitually spends the entire day in filthy pyjamas with un-brushed hair if not planning to go out. For me, it is always better to err on the side of asking first. I want you! For sure! Im also getting the sense that things are shifting between us a bit is there anything I can do to help our friendship be as comfortable as it used to be?. Casually confirm the date ahead of time to make sure the plans are still on. 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