John Bruce Includes box scores and score cards! Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. September 25, 2013 Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. August 11, 2015 Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the
Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. Peter June 2, 2006 A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. June 30, 2019 feat fan I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. Stu Baron January 12, 2011 Man, he was a big one. Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. feat fan Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. March 22, 2005 Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. After one year in New York Lolich retired. Rusty loved New York and the Mets, and wanted to finish his career here. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. August 7, 2018 Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. - Now for the trade itself. November 19, 2002 Mike B Feat Fan Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. You can't trade Rusty Staub without instantly improving team speed". Bob P Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. 29. What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. Lolich was a fine pitcher. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. Still, he seemed nettled that bygone heroes sit nearer to the pigeons than the field. (thankfully returning in '81). November 19, 2002 Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. That would make him a star in today's market. Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. December 8, 2006 In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. (thankfully returning in '81). Well, I'm the president of a company. NYB Buff August 11, 2015 Jim Snedeker John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. March 22, 2005 I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. September 25, 2013 As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. Al Did you boo him or make fun out of him? The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! He has been married to Joyce Fleenor since November 21, 1964. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. The fact of the matter is New York is a what have you done for me lately kind of city, and when Lolich came to the Mets he pitched like a nobody. pete March 5, 2006 Rusty played another decade. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. April 30, 2009 But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. The point is he made a bad team worse. Mickey Lolich so despised the Mets experience that he sat home and ate donuts for a year rather than play again in New York. He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. April 30, 2009 Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Mickey was featured riding his motorcyle. However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. He later came back to play for the Padres. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. September 24, 2005 Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. And by the time he left Detroit, he was fatter than Lolich. I still remember the Mets broadcast team trying to build him up in the eyes of the fans because he had been a Cy Young award winner. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. Bob P The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. December 8, 2006 June 2, 2006 Shari Feat Fan Lolich was signed by the Detroit Tigers as an amateur free agent at age 17 on June . In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. 170 lbs.? Jamey Bumbalo Joe As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. support. Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. That would make him a star in today's market. Peter Mr. Sparkle I was 7 years old, listening to the Mets on the radio in the car with my mother. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. October 19, 2011 Having this claim (in addition to his World Series MVP) is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. That would make him a star in today's market. Raymond Malcuit Once the Tigers won in 84 I gave up on having a 2nd favorite because their win did nothing for me. I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. Donut Shops Beverages Restaurants. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. Rusty could hit with the lights out. March 5, 2006 Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. Bartolo Colon etc). They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. Stu Baron He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. He led the Tigers to their second last-place finish in their 76-year history. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. You can't be serious. However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. Raymond Malcuit Jr. senor ortiz June 2, 2006 Mickey Lolich Birth Name: Michael Stephen Lolich Occupation: Baseball Player Born In: Portland Birthdate: September 12, 1940 Age: 82 years old (as of 2022) Ethnicity: Unknown Nationality: American Sexuality: N/A Mickey Lolich was born on the 12th of September, 1940. May 7, 2013 And Rusty Staub? NYB Buff Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. Raymond Malcuit Jr. All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. July 15, 2016 Della raced in the 1960s-early '70s. Did NOT win the Cy Young. And complaining about how fat he was? June 30, 2019 He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. What an interesting parallel, huh? When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. NYB Buff This has never happened before? August 11, 2015 The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. I still have it somewhere. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Feat Fan He later resurfaced with the Padres. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! I agree with Doughnut Shoppe patron. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. =Chuck= The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. I agree with Doughnut Shoppe patron. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Jim Snedeker Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. Wood again went the distance, allowing just 2 runs. 3-time MLB All-Star who started more games as a pitcher than anyone in Detroit Tigers history. That's more realistic but generous, I think! But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. Raymond Malcuit Jr. He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. He led the Tigers to their second last-place finish in their 76-year history. This has never happened before? Fattest guy ever to grace a Mets uniform Randy Tate (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. April 23, 2003 Gary from Chesapeake Staub a great fielder with a great arm? June 2, 2006 April 30, 2009 The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. April 24, 2003 Here's a snippet he recites: "In the ring with Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali/Is a memory I look on with pride/fought with my heart but needed much more/The bridesmaid but never the bride. Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. Talk show? Al To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? etc. His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. That would make him a star in today's market. Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. or Bruce Kison. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. November 3, 2006 July 15, 2016 They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. October 19, 2011 But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. A look back at the long-ago annual series between the Mets and their Bronx rivals. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. Mickey loved his Harley. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. April 23, 2003 Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. However, this guy had some incredible numbers in Detroit, especially in the Post Season. Mike B To this day she still despises Mickey Lolich. A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. See the article in its original context from. Not that THAT did squat for the Mets! His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. (thankfully returning in '81). June 30, 2019 feat fan Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. April 27, 2013 Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. He goes up one notch for being a character! I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. Rusty has always been a fan favorite so if you're going to trade him it better be worth it, and to most of us Mets fans Lolich wasn't. Did you boo him or make fun out of him? He has played in several PGA and Nationwide Tour events in the 1990s. Mr. Sparkle Hey Mets Fan, Lolich never asked to be traded to New York. Cut him some slack. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. January 12, 2011 He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. Peter Shows included risque "girlie acts" with ladies who exposed their KNEES! In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. 6'1", 170???? What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. I had never heard my mother get so angry at a Mets player. This has never happened before? Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the
He started 45 games and completed 29. In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. You can't be serious. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. Cut him some slack. Man, he was a big one. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. That's pretty good this day in age. October 19, 2011 So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. You can't be serious. Randy Tate February 28, 2003 Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Mike B July 15, 2016 With the NFL regular season quickly approaching lets cheer on our 2009 Lake Orion High School graduate and current Safety for the Dallas Cowboys JEFF HEATH! Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. Collect, curate and comment on your files. Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. October 19, 2011 His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. October 4, 2006 The Mets traded the best player they ever had for a bunch of stiffs. That would make him a star in today's market. LA-Mets Donut Shoppe Patron Ramblin' Pete I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. March 5, 2006 July 15, 2016 Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. Raymond Malcuit Jr. He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. It would appear that the one party who was jobbed in the deal was Lolich himself. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. But Don Grant was bananas, and he took the first decent offer he received. Bartolo Colon etc). The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. Randy Tate The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. October 4, 2006 He wanted to finish out his career in Detroit, where he had some great years (the photo of him jumping on Bill Freehan after the final out in the 1968 World Series is a classic). December 13, 2007 Bob P I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. support. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. Bartolo Colon etc). The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. senor ortiz December 20, 2019 bogeyman June 30, 2019 Mickey liked his doughnuts. Joshua C. Predmore and family moved from New York to Orion in 1849 to establish a farming business. September 29, 2007 I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. April 30, 2009 Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. September 29, 2007 GoMets2006 NYB Buff Shickhaus Franks Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. June 30, 2019 He started 45 games and completed 29. When it comes to singing, I'm the heavyweight champion of the world. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. Al He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. Randy Tate However, it baffled me why the '76 Mets, who had Seaver, Koosman and Matlack, would trade one of their best hitters and an every-day player (and they didn't have that many good hitters) for a fourth or fifth starting pitcher. November 12, 2006 Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. - Now for the trade itself. Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. October 4, 2006 The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! He still knew how to pitch but had no run support to get him a winning record. March 22, 2005 Lolich was a newcomer that was a big loser, and he reminded us of how stupid the Mets management was for always going after fading superstars. 170 lbs.? GoMets2006 May 24, 2002 Bob P Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. pete November 10, 2002 Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. This has never happened before? And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. October 19, 2011 Shickhaus Franks Randy Tate He served up a home run, and my mother screamed "Lolich, you fat jerk, you stink!!!" We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. Cut him some slack. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. [1] He played in Major League Baseball as a left-handed pitcher from 1963 until 1979, almost entirely for the Detroit Tigers. Raymond Malcuit I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. September 24, 2005 It was not made for the purpose of improving the team. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the
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